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area51newmexico



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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: A Philosophical Question.....  

Well?
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Lamiaceae



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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject:  

I cannot believe you have just asked that...
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area51newmexico



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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject:  

Hey I was bored!
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject:  

well once again it depends on your definition of sound and hearing and what is required to have either. Feel better?
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Dark Angel



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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject:  

of course it makes a sound it's just that fact that as the question states nobody is around to hear it. The tree falls, the wood splinters and the tree crashes into the ground disturbing the leaves and little fuzzy animals, this emitts sound waves which fly off, it's just that nobody is there to hear it.

This can fall under the same category of if I can't see it, it doesn't exist. Which is complete bollocks, my feet are currently hidden under my desk and i can't see them so does this mean that they aren't on this plane of existence any more?
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject:  

But if your definition of sound requires that a human being must hear it then the answer is a resounding (no pun inteneded) NO. OK it was intended. :lol:
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Dark Angel



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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject:  

sound requires the presence of sound waves which are created when two things collide or for any other number of reasons with the sound waves created by the falling tree there is sound, just nobody can hear it.

i love these type of topics, being philosophical is fun
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject:  

I know that but in philosophy there appear to be hair splitting qualifiers out the wazoo to define what most of us take for granted to be self-explanatory. But as you study you learn the need to split hairs and "over" qualify terms and definitions and that it really is not so obvious after all what is truth, good, moral, etc., etc. There in lies the fun playing with the current thread.
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Jarmen



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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject:  

if everything has a purpose then what would be the purpose of a sound that no one had the chance to hear?
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Lamiaceae



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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject:  

Jarmen wrote: if everything has a purpose then what would be the purpose of a sound that no one had the chance to hear?

Alright, I'm going to wade into this thread (I would cross myself, or offer up a prayer for protection, but i'm not religious so i'm just going to have to hold my nose and hope for the best)

Just because no one can hear it, doesn't mean that anything cant hear it.
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Jarmen



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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject:  

mintymetal wrote: Jarmen wrote: if everything has a purpose then what would be the purpose of a sound that no one had the chance to hear?

Alright, I'm going to wade into this thread (I would cross myself, or offer up a prayer for protection, but i'm not religious so i'm just going to have to hold my nose and hope for the best)

Just because no one can hear it, doesn't mean that anything cant hear it.

Suppose the area was barron of life with hearing ability?
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whufc88



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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:48 am    Post subject:  

suppose that, if the land was barren, then there wouldnt b a bloody tree now would there?

and plus 6 ppl have voted yes so far so i think its safe to say that th area 51 tree has made a sound
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Jarmen



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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject:  

whufc88 wrote: suppose that, if the land was barren, then there wouldnt b a bloody tree now would there?

Notice I said hearing ability on the end of my statement? and just because a place is totally barron of life doesnt mean there cant be a tree there? how abouts a dead tree?
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whufc88



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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject:  

...wat date was that posted caus i mite have been slightly intoxicated with alcohol wen i wrote that :lol: :P
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tafkao



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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject:  

a cactus would make a gentle, prickly sound, but the vibes would still be there.
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