Tests for parenthood

Erebus · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:18 am Post subject: Tests for parenthood

Should there be a test to see if you are fit for parenthood?

Not just talking a test to see if you're fit to adopt, but to see if in general you are fit to look after children!

As always please explain your reason.
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area51newmexico · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:24 am Post subject:

This may be completely against people's human rights but I argee that there should be a test for parenthood! It's not an easy job and it would prevent a lot of suffering on behalf of the children and society in general. It would stop complete idiots breeding!

Who should be banned from having kids?

How would this law be enforced?
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tafkao · Forum Overlord Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 3946

You would have to have enforced abortions like they did in China, though they're easing up on that now.

aalpha · Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:17 am Post subject:

I said no just because we don't need another corrupt oversight bureau to turn good people's lives upside down. The Police and Courts are already doing a fine job of that.
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Jarmen · Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:45 am Post subject:

I say yes, its to stop incompetants breeding and having children who dont know how to care for them in general let alone in an emergency situation, there should be courses enforced on those planning to have children and you should have to register with the government when you are pregnant and intend to keep the child so adequtte testing can be applied, if you fail miserabley then you should not be able to care for the child, basic background testing should be essential to look for things such as drug and alcohol addictions and psychotic disorders and plain criminal records such as physical violence should be looked at.

This view may seem cold and heartless to some, I know for a fact it does as we debated this topic at school earlier this week with me being the only one for this idea, they had pretty piss poor arguments such as "what if one person in the couple fails the test so they cant have children then can they?" I said well damn right! if they failed a basic parenthood test would you allow that person to care for your child?? I compared the testing for parent hood to that of getting a drivers liscense, the laws of the road are there to protect lives, why shouldnt there be harsher laws to help protect infants?

I went to a motivational speaking forum this year and a magistrate (dont know how other countries legal sytems work, a magistrate is a lower form of a judge) and she told us all her saddest story, she allowed a baby to return home to be with her parents on christmas who had an exstensive drug background and guess what happened? they shot up on something and threw the baby into a wall and the baby died as a direct result. Now tell me, you still think these kind of people who get knocked up should be allowed in a 200m radius of an infant? if you do then you can go get fucked, sorry about the french, this is my touchy feely subject here.
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Erebus · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:17 am Post subject:

Spot on Jarmen!

The only critique I might add is this:

Have basic testing for both potential parents (background checks, drug tests, psyche tests, etc...) and if either fails then they can't have kids.

But then score them as a couple for further things (ability to look after the child, resources, spare time, etc...)

Taf - you could offer them the choice of adoption - We're not struggling for space like china, just don't want retards looking after kids!

Aalpha - I get where you are coming from!
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aalpha · Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:10 am Post subject:

You guys are scaring me to death!!!! Shocked

If over taxing people causes armed revolt, what do you think will happen when you go to tampering with everybody's wee-wee like that. ****runs into the woods at night screaming****
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Erebus · Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject:

area51newmexico · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:17 am Post subject:

I've just had a thought (cool, first one today) about this topic; who is a suitable parent? For example, a couple may have no previous convictions, be financially stable, have no previous drug or alcohol problems and be seemingly nice people but it doesn't stop them from being complete perverts! The system isn't fool proof!
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AVARiCE · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:37 am Post subject:

Jarmen · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:45 am Post subject:

Helen-you say prior convictions, that is very general, so a shoplifter now clean for 5 years couldnt have kids?

Avarice-so have so many people that would make suitable parents these days, I think the difference between drug use and drug addiction should be distinguished here, if you have tried pot at a party when you where 17 and now are 26 without touching it or any other drug since and want a child should you still be denied?
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aalpha · Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 10:56 am Post subject:

Behold the slippery slope of overseeing others. Rolling Eyes

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Erebus · Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:26 am Post subject: