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If a Tree Falls in the Forest, and there's none around to hear it, does it still make a sound?
Of course it does!
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Hell no!
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Huh? / Other?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: A Philosophical Question..... Reply with quote

Well?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot believe you have just asked that...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I was bored!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well once again it depends on your definition of sound and hearing and what is required to have either. Feel better?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of course it makes a sound it's just that fact that as the question states nobody is around to hear it. The tree falls, the wood splinters and the tree crashes into the ground disturbing the leaves and little fuzzy animals, this emitts sound waves which fly off, it's just that nobody is there to hear it.

This can fall under the same category of if I can't see it, it doesn't exist. Which is complete bollocks, my feet are currently hidden under my desk and i can't see them so does this mean that they aren't on this plane of existence any more?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if your definition of sound requires that a human being must hear it then the answer is a resounding (no pun inteneded) NO. OK it was intended. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sound requires the presence of sound waves which are created when two things collide or for any other number of reasons with the sound waves created by the falling tree there is sound, just nobody can hear it.

i love these type of topics, being philosophical is fun
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that but in philosophy there appear to be hair splitting qualifiers out the wazoo to define what most of us take for granted to be self-explanatory. But as you study you learn the need to split hairs and "over" qualify terms and definitions and that it really is not so obvious after all what is truth, good, moral, etc., etc. There in lies the fun playing with the current thread.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if everything has a purpose then what would be the purpose of a sound that no one had the chance to hear?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jarmen wrote:
if everything has a purpose then what would be the purpose of a sound that no one had the chance to hear?


Alright, I'm going to wade into this thread (I would cross myself, or offer up a prayer for protection, but i'm not religious so i'm just going to have to hold my nose and hope for the best)

Just because no one can hear it, doesn't mean that anything cant hear it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mintymetal wrote:
Jarmen wrote:
if everything has a purpose then what would be the purpose of a sound that no one had the chance to hear?


Alright, I'm going to wade into this thread (I would cross myself, or offer up a prayer for protection, but i'm not religious so i'm just going to have to hold my nose and hope for the best)

Just because no one can hear it, doesn't mean that anything cant hear it.


Suppose the area was barron of life with hearing ability?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

suppose that, if the land was barren, then there wouldnt b a bloody tree now would there?

and plus 6 ppl have voted yes so far so i think its safe to say that th area 51 tree has made a sound
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whufc88 wrote:
suppose that, if the land was barren, then there wouldnt b a bloody tree now would there?


Notice I said hearing ability on the end of my statement? and just because a place is totally barron of life doesnt mean there cant be a tree there? how abouts a dead tree?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...wat date was that posted caus i mite have been slightly intoxicated with alcohol wen i wrote that Laughing Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a cactus would make a gentle, prickly sound, but the vibes would still be there.
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