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Who's best for US President?
Republican John McCain
25%
 25%  [ 3 ]
Democrat Barack Obama
75%
 75%  [ 9 ]
Total Votes : 12

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: US elections - the area51 version Reply with quote

Since most of us can't vote in the States, I thought I'd do my own poll.

The real results (what do you mean this poll doens't count?!) aren't going to be released for the next few hours. Let see what happens.....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the difference between the 2 ? - they are both politicians right ?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One's "black", the other can't beat a "black" man in a democratic poll in a racist country. I think we're on the verge of an epic fail.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mintymetal wrote:
What's the difference between the 2 ? - they are both politicians right ?


One is a socialist communist anti-Semite the other is not.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like obama has it, we are screwed now.

To all our friends and neighbors, please buckle up for the ride it's gonna get very bumpy!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wouldn't want to be a presidential bodyguard about now. but seriously, i think it was the best choice
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess in order for the world to come to an end it must follow there are more screwed up people making screwed up decisions than not. hmmmmm. . .
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

warwgn wrote:
looks like obama has it, we are screwed now.

To all our friends and neighbors, please buckle up for the ride it's gonna get very bumpy!!


LOL, I've heard similar views from other Americans. I'm not really knowledgable on the personalities & policies on the candiates so why is Obama viewed as a bad idea by many?

aalpha wrote:
One is a socialist communist anti-Semite the other is not.


Which one is which? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helen - Over in Europe we are applauding the election of Obama, his ideologies etc are up-to-date and he'll actually not be a joke (for American presidents, this is amazing). Thus the Americans with their backward, racist knowledge dislike him. FWIW, aalpha was referring to Obama.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ AVARiCE: If you can get your hands on enough of his statements which are no doubt on the net you won't have any trouble, oh enlightened one, recognizing he really really is a socialist communist. He is no friend to Israel, I just heard a clip from a meeting he was in where he is delighted to see the coal industry go bankrupt from surcharges and other "fine" like penalties and the cost of electricity skyrocket - his words btw - bankrupt and skyrocket. My dislike for Obama is entirely political. He believes and as much as is possible will try to make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. When was the last time any of you thought to submit a job application to a poor person? And I may as well get this out, people who jump to the "racist conclusion" because a black man is criticized are being racist toward the critic. There are, politically, some very wrong things that are true about Obama. What you must always always always keep in mind is the same things would be true if it were Hillary Clin. . .ooops another despised minority. Well, the core of a liberal democrat politician is the same no matter how you cover it. Black skin, white skin, male, female, makes no never mind.

@ All readers: I'll see if I can get my hands on a couple of examples to show you what I mean. After that you can do your own homework or not. If you don't, then don't sit around hissing racist just because you don't care to inform yourself about what other people know.

By the way, I go out of my way to identify Liberal Democrat Politicians as opposed to just saying Democrats. There is a difference between Democrat Party citizenry and the leaders of the Democratic Party. The leaders are socialist communists. If you do not subscribe to "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" and you object to your 13 year old daughter being able to get an abortion without your knowledge you are not one of the Democrats I demonisze. So cool down before you get all hot.

Here are some Liberal Democratic thoughts, views, etc. I looked around YouTube a bit and frankly I wouldn't recommend it. There's a lot of hate mongering and taking things out of context so much so it's a challenge even for *me* to get through to the stuff people actually say and the context in which they said it. But here is a bit of what is wrong with Liberal Democrat Politicians.

Jim Moran (D-VA)US House of Representatives - distribution of wealth

ok ok D=Democrat, VA=from Virginia




Fundamental Flaw of the Constitution - Which raises the question how does one swear an oath to uphold a document they perceive to be fundamentally flawed?



Israeli new article

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128225
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your comments aalpha, they are appreciated and valued. I don't think you're racist (or for that matter anyone who voted republican) I know you and I know you're smart enough to develop an opinion of a person based on their own merits, not by the group they belong to. I hope all of the people who did vote for Obama, too, did so because they believed in what he stands for (not saying that I agree or disagree with them) and not just because of who he is. I just hope people made an intelligent decision on the matter.

Re second video - is it me or does he not say what the flaw is?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that short sound bite he only states the Constitution reflects an enormous blind spot in the culture which carries forth to today and was shared by the framers (our word for the architects of the Constitution) and it reflects a fundamental flaw. . .
Sorry about the sound quailty. I didn't have time to keep searching for a better one but will try later.

And unless some one else is curious enough I'll see if I can find what the flaw actually is.

And thank you for your post.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aalpha wrote:
@ AVARiCE: If you can get your hands on enough of his statements which are no doubt on the net you won't have any trouble, oh enlightened one, recognizing he really really is a socialist communist. He is no friend to Israel, I just heard a clip from a meeting he was in where he is delighted to see the coal industry go bankrupt from surcharges and other "fine" like penalties and the cost of electricity skyrocket - his words btw - bankrupt and skyrocket. My dislike for Obama is entirely political. He believes and as much as is possible will try to make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. When was the last time any of you thought to submit a job application to a poor person? And I may as well get this out, people who jump to the "racist conclusion" because a black man is criticized are being racist toward the critic. There are, politically, some very wrong things that are true about Obama. What you must always always always keep in mind is the same things would be true if it were Hillary Clin. . .ooops another despised minority. Well, the core of a liberal democrat politician is the same no matter how you cover it. Black skin, white skin, male, female, makes no never mind.


As a socialist communist who bears no sympathies to Israel, he's my man. I fail to see how distributing wealth more evenly is unfair, but I'm a socialist communist and it's the sort of thing I fight for.

Firstly, as you said to Taf, I am what I am and I have no qualms about it. In a modern environment I am a racist, simple as. Secondly, on an educated level, I'm possibly the least racist person here - the only reason I continue to call him black is for the hilarity of people thinking I'm serious. The man is mixed race yet I don't see him being called "white". America is the racist state, as the media has proven time and again. The fact that everyone's going goo-ga over the first "black" president when he's the first "mixed race/partially black" president really does reinforce my point.

America has finally done the correct thing and I'll tell you how it'll work right now, over the four years people will learn to love him. Personally, I am happy that the most powerful man in the world is intelligent. Over time I'll be proven correct (as I always am) and the world will enjoy happiness, if only briefly.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I vote for the squirrel with the nuts? Wink

Regarding the redistribution of the wealth: In my opinion this is just wrong.
example of sharing the wealth...

you go to college, you study hard, get good grades, you don't party or drink and you pay attention in class and you are always on time.

Your roommate however is a party junkie, never listens in class and is failing every subject and is never on time.

Now, you tell your parents that you are doing well and the roommate is not so your parents tell you that you must give half of your good grades to the roommate who didn't even work for it.
Tell me, is that fair?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

livinginparadise wrote:
Can I vote for the squirrel with the nuts? Wink

Regarding the redistribution of the wealth: In my opinion this is just wrong.
example of sharing the wealth...

you go to college, you study hard, get good grades, you don't party or drink and you pay attention in class and you are always on time.

Your roommate however is a party junkie, never listens in class and is failing every subject and is never on time.

Now, you tell your parents that you are doing well and the roommate is not so your parents tell you that you must give half of your good grades to the roommate who didn't even work for it.
Tell me, is that fair?


It's just as fair as banks deliberately offering credit to customers they know can't afford it, bankrupting them and repossessing their houses and causing an economics meltdown. As a result of said meltdown the wealthy people of this world with cash in hand can invest millions into dirt cheap stock and within a year could have doubled their cash.

It's also just as fair as me working my ass off, being an honest man and never bearling malice yet constantly being overlooked for promotion because my boss has friends to promote or another non-work related agenda.

It's also just as fair as affording an education (see America's system). You could be of medium-high intelligence and could get through uni with a 2-1 or so but as your family can't afford it you won't be able to get to college and then latterly university, which would result on you getting the job (and the salary) you could truly deserve.

Each system has its merits and faults, my examples are just as true as yours. I would sleep much easier at night knowing that someone out there is living comfortably at night despite not deserving it than someone out there is living in poverty despite being an angel on this earth. At the end of the day, communism/socialism is about improving the lives of everyone, even if it is only minutely. Capitalism is about kicking someone when they're down and the higher up you are, enjoying the laugh more.

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